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com tonight, the president tells america to man up. >> i expect all of you to march with me and press on! >> even with the economy and jobs tanking, a prominent african-american leader makes a candid admission about black leaders publicly criticizing a black president. >> it is a more difficult, but make no mistake. plus, free at last. >> we have been held in almost total isolation from the world and everything we love. >> after two years in an iranian prison, an emotional homecoming for all three of the american hikers. hateful last word. >> i had no regret. >> his texas execution overshadowed by the one in georgia last week. did america learn anything from jam jam james byrd's dragging death? another trial of the century? >> this is it. the final curtain call.
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>> michael jackson's doctor goes on trial this week. we introduce you to the jury deciding conrad murray's fate. right here, right now on cnn. good evening, i'm don lemon. you're in the cnn newsroom. president obama begins the new week on the west coast. his trip amounts to a political twofer. he's raising millions in campaign cash from big-money donors and he's using his remarks to push for his jobs proposal. the president started in seattle a few hours ago and then he headed to northern california to tap the wallets in silicon valley. jessica wellen is traveling with the president tonight. what was his message to his supporters and the stops today? >> hey, don, he is rallying the old democratic donors, trying to get the old energy back to t the -- to the extent he can, saying don't forget the message, don't give up now.
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>> i need you guys to shake off any doldrums. i need you to decide right here and right now and i need you to talk to your friends and your neighbors and your co-workers, and you need to tell them you know what, we're not finished yet. we've got more work to do. >> reporter: and you mentioned he's raising millions, he has a total of seven fund-raisers on this west coast swing. >> we have seen president obama have a sharper tone towards republicans lately. did he keep up that aggressiveness today? >> reporter: he absolutely did, and, you know, one of the most effective tactics when you're trying to rally democrats is to remind them of the alternative, which is republicans. and one of his messages today i'm going to read it because we don't have it on tape. he says, republicans quote the alternative an approach to government that would
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fundamentally cripple america in meeting the challenges of the 2 -- 21th century. this follows in line with his much more sharply partisan message we have heard from him in recent weeks, ever since that debt deal fell apart and he ended up with the political acrimony we saw over the summer. i can also tell you, don, that speaking to well-placed donors that the president saw that his fund-raising base was not rallying during that debt deal. he was not being -- the campaign was not able to get the rsvps, they were not able to draw in the money during the debt negotiate deal, but as soon as he came out with the american jobs act, as soon as perry and romney started debating, those fund-raising money started to tick up and this is a message that seems to be working for them, don. >> jessica yellin, thank you very much. in washington tonight, lawmakers are at odds over spending, again, and once again
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we're facing a threat of a government shutdown. lawmakers say a shutdown can be avoided but they can't resist deflecting the blame to the other party. candy crowley has more. >> reporter: for the third time this year, a congressional stare down threatens a government shutdown. let me start with you, senator warner, and ask you if there is a point at which you think this is embarrassing? >> yes. it is embarrassing >> reporter: are we there? >> can we once again inflict on the country and the american people the spectacle of a near-government shutdown? >> reporter: the u.s. government runs out of money at the end of this week unless a temporary spending bill is passed on capitol hill. inside the house version is money to replenish the federal emergency management agency, fema, which assists the tornado people in joplin.
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the crux of the matter is how and when to decide how to pay for it. >> the house version says that a disaster has to be dealt with, we're going to help people who have been affected by disasters but we're going to start cutting the government in other places where the money is not so important. >> reporter: senate democrats have rejected the house version saying republicans are proposing to pay for increased fema funds with cutbacks in programs that create jobs. nobody's budgeting, ergo stalemate, a looming shutdown and the politics that ensue. >> i'll give the senate democratic leader most of the credit, he managed a disaster all week when there's no crisis. everybody knows we'll pay for every single penny of disaster aid that the president declares, and that fema certifies. >> one point about who to blame or not to blame on this current hopefully nonshutdown, there is a group and i do believe it is
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mostly senate and the house in terms of some of the tea party republicans who say on every issue we're going to make this a make or break. >> reporter: pointing fingers about an impending shutdown can be good politics, but an actual shutdown is likely to hurt any politician in a 50-mile radius of washington. odds are good they'll figure this out. they have till friday. candy crowley, cnn, washington. also tonight at long last two americans are spending their first night back in the u.s. >> after 781 days in prison, shane and i are now free men. >> their imprisonment in iran over after more than two years after they stepped off the plane in new york, they finally got to make some comments that they have waited nearly 800 days to get off their chests. our susan candiotti was there >> reporter: back on u.s. soil, freed hikers josh fattal and shane bauer came out swinging at iran, calling themselves political pawns and iran's
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officials liars for calling them spies. >> they do not deserve undue credit for ending what they had no right and no justification to start in the first place. the only reason we have been held hostage is because we are american. >> reporter: and they disclose how they found out their two-year ordeal was over. last wednesday, in prison, they were inexplicably given street clothes, and fingerprinted and taken to meet an envoy from oman and -- >> he said, let's go home. >> reporter: within hours they ran off a plane in oman and into the arms of their families. including the mother of josh fattal. what was that like for you? >> well, we were hooting and hollering and we were waving our scarves and we just couldn't wait till they got down to us. i couldn't have asked for anything better. >> reporter: in prison, spending months in isolation, with no diplomatic visits and being told lies about their families they
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said they were haunted by cries from other prisoners. >> we heard the screams of other prisoners being beaten and there was nothing we could do to help them. >> reporter: what was it like to hear the beatings and the screams? >> not being age to help another human being, being completely impotent and unable to do anything to ease their suffering was something that i will never forget and will always be with me. >> reporter: when they complained to their prison guards about their treatment -- >> the guards would immediately remind us of comparable conditions at guantanamo bay. we do not believe that such human rights violations on the part of our government justify what has been done to us. >> reporter: josh and shane wouldn't take reporter questions, asking for privacy for now. and as for shane and sarah's engagement we have heard so much about -- >> i'd rather not focus on it. >> reporter: rather not focus on it? >> yeah. everyone knows we're engaged.
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>> we want to begin our lives anew and with new appreciation of the sweet taste of freedom. >> reporter: they thanked supporters for freedom, but left the room without revealing any more details about their two-year ordeal. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. when we come right back here on cnn -- >> jesus christ! >> a gunman opens fire near a stadium full of children playing football. tonight, we have new video of those kids taking cover from the bullets. ♪ get gillette irritation defense shave gel and gillette fusion proglide razor to help defend against five signs of shaving irritation. ♪ try gillette fusion proglide and the irritation defense line. help defend your skin. ♪
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>> is there any exit? is there any exit over here? >> we're fine right now. we're all underneath bleachers. >> it's hard to hear, but you can hear the gunshots in the background there. kids and parents scrambled for cover at the high school stadium as police confronted a man firing two rifles at a nearby elementary school. police say the unidentified man had tried to break into a car at the school. then tried to break into the cab of a piece of earth moving equipment on school property. police converged on the scene killing the 51-year-old gunman before he was able to get near the football game. no one else was hurt. this week begins one of the most high-profile and possibly gut wrenching criminal trials you may ever witness. dr. conrad murray, the man blamed for michael jackson's death will defend himself in
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court on charges of involuntary manslaughter. opening statements begin tuesday. tonight, cnn's ted rowlands gives us a preview of the case against the doctor. >> your honor, i am an innocent man. >> reporter: the jury in the conrad murray manslaughter trial will have several questions to answer. one, did dr. murray give michael jackson a lethal dose of propofol? prosecutors say there's no doubt murray and his attorneys say there's no way. >> there's no way that dr. murray would pump michael jackson full of propofol sufficient for major surgery and walk out of that room. it's not going to happen. that's not the dr. murray is. >> reporter: he claims he only administered 25 milligrams of propofol, far less from what was found in jackson's body by the coroner. >> how did it get in him? >> that's a good question, ted. do you have any idea how it got in him? >> reporter: the defense is expected to argue that jackson
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somehow gave himself the lethal dose. >> could michael jackson have done it? >> is it possible for an individual to inject himself with a drug? yes. yes. >> before jackson died, he spent hours struggling to go to sleep according to a time line murray gave police. murray says he gave jackson five doses of three different drugs between 1:30 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. at 10:40 a.m. he says he gave jackson the propofol. >> did anybody witness what happened? >> no, just the doctor, sir. >> 911 was called at 12:21. emergency responders will testify they believe jackson was dead when they arrived. another question jurors must answer is was using propofol, an anesthetic for surgery as a sleep aid so reckless that murray should be held responsible for jackson's death? doctor after doctor gets up and says this should never be used outside a clinical setting or hospital setting.
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>> the fact the circumstances may be unusual -- may be demonstrated to be unusual does not make it egregious. that alone does not make it egregious. >> reporter: murray's defense will argue that jackson was a drug addict and in horrible physical shape and he was getting drugs from other doctors that murray didn't know about. prosecutors plan to argue that jackson was in good shape and planned to show this clip from the documentary "this is it." of jackson rehearsing just days before he died. so now more than two years after jackson's death, a los angeles jury will be presented with the case and ultimately decide whether or not dr. conrad murray should be held responsible. ted rowlands, cnn, los angeles. >> and i will be in los angeles all week to cover the trial for cnn and bring you the very latest from inside the courtroom. stay tuned. ahead this hour -- unemployment crosses color lines. but should president obama be doing more to reduce black unemployment?
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all right. the president is pitching his jobs plan on a daily basis. republicans already are lining up in opposition. meantime, african-americans, his strongest supporters, have an unemployment rate approaching a 25-year high. at around 17%. close to 17%. now is the president doing
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enough to help them, and could he do more? i want to talk about it with cnn contributor and political anchor for new york one, errol lewis. he's the coeditor of deadline artist, an anthology of paper columns. here in atlanta, goldie taylor, editor at large for the grio.com. good to see both of you. let's start with the president's speech at the dinner hosted by the congressional black caucus last night. before i'm going to play something from emmanuel cleaver. before i want to ask you, what did you think of the president's speech last night? >> i thought it was an interesting speech but a gutsy one. depending on who you think he was talking to last night, he was right on base or dead off base. and so that remains to be seen. >> right on base or dead off base mean -- >> if he was talking to members of the cbc and telling them to get up off their keisters and get into the streets, maybe he was dead on. if he was talking to the american people, talking to african-americans about where their fight is, then maybe the comments were misplaced. >> people were a bit critical of it because they said that for people who have been unemployed
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for a few years or have lost their homes to repossession, saying, you know, let's move. stop complaining may not have been the right message. >> i didn't hear him as a really aiming at anybody other than the black political leadership that was in the room there, frankly. i mean, he was telling them to stop complaining. stop criticizing and to work with him. he's going to need all of their help in their key districts in the swing states if he's going to get re-elected. i mean, it was a pretty naked appeal to them to try and close ranks and help him as he tries to mount this re-election bid. i don't know if he was asking the unemployed to do anything for him, other than to be a little patient with him. >> but before the dinner iasked the cbc chairman emanuel cleaver if he finds it hard to criticize the president. take a listen. >> i've been black all of my life. and i know that african-americans are going to be careful about providing any comfort to those who would like
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to politically dismantle this presidency. and so, obviously, and unapologetically, we're going to be careful about things that we say that might reflect negatively on the president. >> all right. so the president again, that was before he spoke at the cbc. goldie, we've discussed this situation but the jobs situation isn't getting better. should african-americans keep their criticisms private? i've spoken to people and they say i'm surprised more people aren't marching in the streets when it comes to this economy and unemployment. should african-americans keep it private? >> they have to begin acting in their own interest. if you look at african-american unemployment where it remains in double digit, continues to decline while the rest of the economy begins to table off there are key issues there we have to be concerned about. last night's speech for the president with the cbc, he needs them. he frankly cannot win this election without them. during the 2008 election, he had 67% or better turnout for african-american voters during the midterm elections the following two years, there was
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37% african-american turnout. if that 37% only turns out again next year, this president goes back home to chicago. >> and this is real talk, errol. i think it's "the washington post" that i was looking at online and i think the headline says, president obama courting black voters again or something like that. i'm paraphrasing. >> yeah, i don't know that he ever stopped, actually. you know, he's been doing quietly over the last few years is when a major policy initiative comes out, especially domestic policy, he'll convene members of the black press and sort of tell them, look, this is what this means for your readers and constituency. this is what it means in black communities. i think some of the criticism, when emmanuel cleaver says he would be complaining if it was some other kind of a president, you have to wonder, what specific policies are they talking about? i mean, you know, the president has done a whole bunch of stuff and he's talked about a lot of it. when you look at some of the things that maybe aren't pitched as to help black youth, but when he's putting money into community colleges, when he's
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putting money into failing high schools, many of which are in inner cities, he's doing what they have asked for. i'm not sure exactly what they are getting at. maybe around some of the mortgage relief? >> i think that the quote was, as again a paraphrase if bill clinton was president, he wouldn't stand for this or if 34% of white women were unemployed, we'd be marching in the streets. again, that was the gist of what he had to say. i have to say this. the overall economy is starting to worry a lot of people. i talked with conservative analyst david frum.things to say. take a listen. >> we are facing a global economic crisis. it's not just in the united states. although things are -- we have enormous problems here as americans continue to cope with the enormous debt load they piled up during the housing bubble. and as so long as consumers are weighed down by those debts it's hard to see how they find their footing. >> errol, are we headed toward a global recession, and if so, is there anything the president can do to prevent it?
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>> a lot of the signs are pointing to some really hard times ahead. i don't know if david frum has really analyzed it the right way, frankly, though. if consumers hunker down and do what he seems to be suggesting like repay their personal debts, that leads you right into recession. you know, the problem with recession, the definition of recession is that not enough people are spending. and when not enough people are spending, the stores start slowing down and the credit starts to dry up and the whole machine grinds to a halt. so what can the president do in the president can do what he's been trying to do which is sort of get the morale back, get some kind of stimulus going and hope he can get somewhere with congress. >> he's got to do it in 12 to 14 months. >> he's got to do it. he's got do it in a shorter time than that because this election is starting in earnest now. i don't think this country is going to be in any better shape should we have a republican take control of the white house next year. in fact, i think we'll be in worse shape. but the fact is, in terms of african-american wealth, it's
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dried up and evaporated with the fall of the housing markets over these years. to ask consumers to spend more when they've lost their homes, they haven't had jobs in 99-plus weeks, i think that's a misnomer. you have to make some real investments in small business. make real investments in the middle class. make real investments in infrastructure improvements. things that will put people back to work so they have that dollar to spend at the grocery store. today they don't have it, so they're not spending. this is not a confidence issue. this is a flat broke pocket issue. >> it has to be -- it has to go beyond rhetoric. >> it has to go beyond rhetoric. >> goldie taylor, errol louis, thanks to both of you. great conversation. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. coming up later this hour, are african-americans hurting their own interests by hesitating to criticize president obama? we're going to discuss it in the no talking points segment. you'll want to see that. also, a black man tied to a truck and dragged to his death.
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james byrd's murder ignited anger across the country. with his killer put to death, we talk to byrd's sister and daughter about whether justice was served. life insurance companies treat you like a policy, not a person. instead of getting to know you they simply assign you a number. aviva is here to change all that. we're bringing humanity back to insurance we are buildg insurance around you.
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support. brewer was one of three men convicted of lynching james byrd in jasper, texas. the crime horrified the nation and inspired hate crime legislation in byrd's name. i spoke with byrd's daughter and sister and asked them whether they feel any sense of justice now that one of his killers has been executed. >> it made me relive the entire ordeal. it has been 13 years. i don't feel justice was served with the death penalty because i don't agree with it. he was given an option to just take drugs in his arm and go to sleep. my father wasn't given that option. he was gruelly tortured for three miles until he was dismembered. so with lawrence being executed it doesn't sway me one way or the other.
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>> you don't believe in the death penalty? >> i don't because -- only because there's some innocent people that may be executed wrongly. might be put to death and you may be innocent. so for that reason i disagree with the death penalty. i would like him to live on in jail for the rest of his life and remember what happened to my dad. >> so renee, you bring up something. do you feel at all that the attention on the troy davis execution overshadowed? you are talking about people being put to death who are innocent. a lot of people say troy davis is innocent. do you think is overshadowed the execution of your father's killer? and maybe by extension your father's legacy on anti-hate crime legislation? >> i don't -- i can't really tell you if it overshadowed it because i wasn't aware of the media or watching the newspapers. so i stayed away from that when this was in front of me. so i didn't read the papers or watch the news so i can't really say. but i am aware of what happened to mr. davis. >> i want to go to betty now. betty, you have said in the
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past you forgive lawrence brewer for what he did to your brother. i want to play what he said in the days leading up to his death. and i want to get you to respond to it. take a listen. >> okay. >> as far as any regrets, no, i'm still -- i have no regrets. >> so this man killed your brother, landed himself on death row and here he is saying he has no regrets. do you feel anything about forgiving him after hearing him say that? >> oh, yes, i do. i forgave him 13 years ago. and the reason why, if i did not forgive him, i would be like he were. as a hater. >> so it doesn't matter what he said and how he felt and -- >> no, it doesn't matter because it's just like someone to be eaten up with cancer. i refuse to let hate override me. so, yes, sir, i did forgive him. >> do you still live in jasper? have race relations improved there in the 13 years?
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>> it had but lately tension have started back up. >> what do you -- how so? >> we hired -- they hired a black chief of police here in jasper, texas. >> and so people are upset by that? >> yes, they are. not all, but some. >> and so it's starting up again, you believe. i want to go back to renee now. john william king is still on death row for your father's death. do you want to see him -- his sentence commuted to life in prison? >> yes, i would want him to live on in memory of what happened to my dad every day being reminded of why he's there. why he chose to do the things he's done. it's a choice in life. you can do bad or you can do good. it was him, brewer and berry was very uneducated. and if people just educate themselves and believe in god, we won't have this type of crime happening against one another
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just because we're different. >> no date has been set for john william king, the other man sentenced to death for killing james byrd. the trial of michael jackson's doctor starts this week. but already, controversy. is the court trying to send a message to jackson fans to beat it? 607 franklin st. ♪ sea bass... ♪ ooohhh! ♪ i like it. yeah, i love the kitchen. [ male announcer ] the epa-estimated 42 mpg highway chevy cruze eco. perfect for finding your way home.
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the trial of michael jackson's doctor is set to begin this week. but there's already controversy. it is nothing to do with the case. it's about seating for jackson's fans in the courtroom.
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i talked about that and other stories making news with hln's jane valez mitchell. >> there's some controversy about the number of seats in the courtroom for the family, for fans. what's going -- for the public. what's going on? >> well, there are six seats designated for the public. they've got to get there at 7:30 in the morning and then there's going to be a lottery to determine who those six will be. and the jackson fans are like wait a second. that doesn't leave room for enough jackson fans. and some believe that it's orchestrated to kind of keep the jackson fans out of the courtroom. but i do have to say, if i was part of the court system, i'd think maybe that's a good idea because we don't want anybody influencing the jury unduly. and they can even influence with their stares. a jackson fan was thrown out of court the other day having a staredown with the defendant, dr. conrad murray. >> this is another trial i know you're going to be covering.
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the connecticut family, the mother and two children. brutally beaten and then killed. the father also beaten and then set on fire. the father was the only one who survived. the first suspect was found guilty. now the second person is going on trial. what can we expect from that? >> well, it's a horrific trial. this family has to endure going through this horror a third time the first time when it actually happened, then the trial of the first defendant who was convicted and is on death row. now the trial of the second defendant. they have to listen to horrific audiotapes of the second defendant describing exactly what he did minute by minute to this family, including beatings, sexual assault and arson. three females left dead. the sole survivor dr. william petit devastated by hearing this sort of blase account of this mayhem. it's being compared to the manson murders because of the sadism involved. and the fact these two guys who admit they were there seem to be enjoying a wreaking havoc and
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torturing this family. >> it's just terrible. tell us what else you'll be covering coming up on "issues." >> well, we are all over tarik salahi. the alleged white house party crasher whose wife he thought had been kidnapped. turns out, she left him for another man. the '80s star of the group journey. and there's all sorts of intrigue. it's the hollywood story. there are claims that, well, maybe the three of them are in cohoots to pitch a reality show even though he's the betrayed husband. it defies description. we are all over that story. >> jane velez-mitchell, "issues with jane velez-mitchell" airs each night on hln. thank you, jane. >> thank you, don. controversial topic in our no talking points segment that you don't want to miss tonight. criticizing the president. it's a catch-22 for many and we'll break it down for you coming up. first your monday morning commute forecast tonight.
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injuries at this point. we're continuing to work that story. cleveland, by the way is northwest of the greenville area over here towards the delta. you can see a tornado watch remains in effect until 10:00 local time tonight. that's until the top of the hour. but i'm also concerned here for greenville because there's some are very nasty storms moving through there. they are moving over the same area so we get real concerned about flooding. >> so be very careful and take shelter. so what about tomorrow's commute tonight? >> yeah, we've got a lot of trouble areas out there for tomorrow. and you know, a couple of big weather stories we'll be watching in the week ahead overall. first of all, this area of low pressure across the great lakes. warm weather across the rockies. and then we've got a storm in the pacific northwest. we'll start out with this upper low. that's where we expect most of the delays to begin because this thing is just going to sit here really probably bringing rain until thursday. we've got days to go with this system here. on the plus side, nice south wind bringing you summer-like temperatures in the rockies where it will be 5 to 15 degrees above average.
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and the pacific northwest will be a rough start to that workweek. windy conditions there today. breezy conditions tomorrow as well. but the rain, we think, for your monday commute is going to be a little bit heavier. all right. let's hit your top five for you. tomorrow's commute tonight. city number five, what do we pick? philadelphia. looking for morning fog. give yourself extra time to get to work. make sure you have an extra distance between you and the car ahead of you. there could be some delays in the afternoon, too, because of a couple of showers. cincinnati, that cut-off low we were telling you about bringing you low clouds and rain. delays expected throughout the day at the airport there which is a hub. seattle, low clouds. rain and those strong gusty winds. you'll be socked in all day long. so get up a little early if you can before you head on out. miami and ft. lauderdale, we were pounded all day long with heavy rain and thunderstorms. tomorrow, that's going to be the rule once again. i don't want to rule out tampa or orlando. you guys could see delays because of those thunderstorms, too. and a lot of ponding of water, too. watch out for that on the highways.
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chicago, you are number one. i think you guys were number one last week, too. sorry about that. but low clouds, rain and wind. that cut-off low will stick with you through wednesday. that's going to bring in lousy weather. a lot of repeat cities, don, on that list this weekend. >> in chicago if you don't like the weather, stick around. give it a few minutes. it's going to change. >> thank you, jacqui jeras. we appreciate it. it is time for our ongoing segment, no talking points. it's where we hold newsmakers accountable to answer tough questions without rhetoric and spin. tonight the president and the congressional black caucus. first the president hammering one theme since he introduced his jobs bill 2 1/2 weeks ago. >> you should pass this jobs plan right away. pass this jobs bill. pass this jobs bill. you should pass it right away. pass this bill. pass this jobs bill. >> and he did it again with feeling last night at a congressional black caucus dinner in washington. >> pass this jobs bill and every small business owner in america,
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including 100,000 black-owned businesses will get a tax cut. you say you are the party of tax cuts. pass this jobs bill. >> the president had to be stern. he was speaking to an audience who represents the 16.7% of unemployed african-americans in this country. so before mr. obama spoke, my question to congresswoman sheila jackson lee, a cbc member herself, was a simple one. when it comes to black unemployment and i insisted on a direct answer. >> do you think he gets it? >> well, i tell you what. let me just say that the congressional black caucus admires, loves this president and is ready for his re-election. we call our efforts constructive conscious critiquing so we can all do better. >> with all due respect do you think he gets it? >> i do think he gets it. i think it's hard. i think that he's got to be able to balance this whole idea being the president of the united
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states of america, knowing that there are painful communities. >> and to be fair, some black leaders have been critical of the president. but even the head of the cbc admits it's hard for him and others to be publicly critical of a black president. again, we wanted a direct answer. listen. >> do you think that african-americans are harming themselves because they are supporting this president even when it appears, at least that this issue, he has not had their best interest at heart? >> well, first of all, i think the president is clearly focused on jobs. and while he is not speaking directly to african-americans, it is clear that some of the proposals where he's talking about the long-term unemployed with directions to the cabinet to provide attention there, that it will have impact on african-americans. >> so, again, i pressed congressman cleaver to answer the direct question. >> is it harder for a black person, whether constituent or congressperson or lawmaker to
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constructively criticize this president because he is african-american? >> i do think that for african-americans in politics, in congress, it is a more difficult. differences are not necessarily disassociation or disaffection. we support the president. we don't always agree with him. and when we don't, we're still not going to blast him. we're going to try to get information to him. >> and as i say every time we do the no talking points segment, it is not ideological nor partisan to insist that leaders who come on this program stick to the questions presented. you the viewer, the american people, the voter deserve as much. up next, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. long distance swimmer diana nyad dives in for a third time. not a person. instead of getting to know you they simply assign you a number. aviva is here to change all that.
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let's check your headlines right now. police in indiana have been called to a house where multiple bodies were reportedly found. there's little information at this point, but the state police went to the home near laurel, indiana, that was sunday afternoon, this afternoon and police are still trying to determine what happened there. they have questioned people, but do not have anyone in custody now. we'll continue to update you. josh fattal and shane bauer are back home in the u.s. two americans stepped off the plane in new york on sunday after two years of imprisonment in iran after being accused of
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spying. they were released after a deal brokered. they were arrested in 2009 along with american sarah shourd while hiking near the iran/iraq border. shourd was a released about a year ago. [ gunshots ] medics in yemen say one person was killed in the capital today as security forces battle anti-government protesters. 38 people were killed saturday in clashes addressing his country, the president blamed terrorists for the deadly violence at an anti-government protest. he said that al qaeda is supported by the elements responsible for the violence. saudi arabia's king is giving women the right to vote. king abdulla's decision doesn't take effect until after the next election. on thursday, saudi men will vote in municipal elections, only the second in 50 years. women still have a long way to go in the kingdom though. saudi arabia doesn't even allow them to drive. president barack obama
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begins a new week on the west coast, he is raising millions from big-money donors and is using his remarks to push for his jobs proposal. he started sunday in seattle. then he headed to northern california where he holds a town hall monday at the headquarters for linked in. it looks like the third time isn't a charm for diana nyad. the 62-year-old endurance swimmer ended her attempt to swim the 103 miles from cuba to florida late this morning. >> i trained so hard for it! i deserve it. it's a hard thing to let go of. >> nyad began her swim friday evening and projected it would take 60 hours to complete. she suffered jellyfish and man of war stings and she was pushed off course by strong currents.
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she made her first attempt 33 years ago. her second attempt, last month, ended after 29 hours. people who attended services at one new jersey church this sunday left with more money than they had when they came. the liquid church passed the offering plate, but insisted people take money out instead of dropping it in. the church pastor was on cnn earlier today. >> people give $30,000 cash into our sunday offering, so today we're doing the opposite. they'll reach in and pull out an unmarked envelope that we have prepacked with 10s and 20s and 50s. people are acting like they're going to be struck by lightning. you know, a lot of people are cynical about religion. they expect to come to church to be shaken down. we're saying you know what? but it's all god's money and he trusts you. every bill in the u.s. economy says in god we trust, and we're going to put that to test. >> pastor lucas isn't just throwing cash around. he is urging his flock to use the money to help people in need. he calls it a spiritual stimulus.
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breakout album was 20 years ago. it wasn't just another rock album, it redefined the genre. nearly as famous as the music was the album cover. a naked baby in a swimming pool with a dollar bill on a hook. that baby is spencer alden. he's all grown up now on this, the 20th anniversary of "never mind" i asked spencer what it was like to be the nirvana baby. and he began by telling us the photo was taken by a friend of his father's. >> he had a good friend that was a photographer, and the photographer, they went to school together. he needed -- he just got a job that, you know, needed a baby to be in the water swimming and i was just born at the time. and my dad doing sets props, reading and magic and special effects for the film industry, it was like another job for him. they went down to the local pool and they threw me in the water and that was about it. so -- you know, it was just like a friend's helping out a friend kind of a thing. >> you're on the album cover,
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but did you like the album at all? were there certain songs you liked or didn't like? >> definitely, i like nirvana a lot. there's no songs i don't like. they all have a special place for people and i really liked the album. i definitely really liked to listen to it when no one is around, i would say. i wouldn't turn it on with all my friends watching. kind of weird and awkward. but i like the album. >> do you get royalties? you are on the cover and it's one of the best-selling albums ever. >> no, i don't get any royalties. there was no model release signed, so it's kind of a interesting cover, because, you know, i feel like it kind of portrays the situation kind of well. >> well, lesson learned. get the model release, that was spencer alden, the nirvana baby. 20 years later. okay, nbc's "saturday night live" has its eyes on politics. spoofing the gop's latest presidential debate. guest host alec baldwin portrayed rick perry as a less than energized
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candidate. take a look. >> i'd like to attack mitt romney as a flip-flopper. >> it's late in the debate this is when you get tired and confused. >> not tonight, i'm ready. >> romney said he was for, against obamacare. but what about mitt romney? i mean, mitt romney care. was it before he was before? >> uh-oh. >> was it was he was before --  border control? [ snoring ] >> i guess all is fair in politics and comedy. i'm don lemon from the cnn headquarters in atlanta. i'll be reporting this week from los angeles on the trial of michael jackson's doctor.

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